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> Unused Character in Sonic the Fighters
sonicblur
post Aug 21 2005, 07:41 PM
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I hacked a character mod for the Gamecube version of Sonic the Fighters earlier today. Unfortunately I can't make it into an Action Replay code at this time, because it uses virtual memory which the AR doesn't have access to. Still, I figured this was worth posting because of what I found.

EDIT: The Action Replay codes have been hacked and are now released. You can find them here:
http://gscentral.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=242
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I've only posted codes for the characters that don't crash the game though.


Anyway, here are the character values:
00 - Sonic
01 - Tails
02 - Amy
03 - Metal Sonic
04 - Fang
05 - Bark
06 - Knuckles
07 - Espio
08 - Eggman - CRASH
09 - Eggman - CRASH
0A - Bean
0B - Eggman in his final stage robot
0C - Eggman in a UFO shaped robot - CRASH
0D - Eggman - CRASH
OE - Rocket Metal - Crash
0F - Honey (????) - Crash
10 - Super Sonic

Notice, 0F shows up as a character called Honey. (At least, that's what shows up on the top of the screen where the character's name usually is) The character doesn't have a model, and the game will crash if you try to load a fight with it. (I got the name to show up by switching characters in the middle of a fight) Anyway, I'm not sure what to make of it. Was there ever a Sega character called Honey?

Eggman in a UFO shaped robot is just his UFO that he uses to split you into two when you fight yourself. It crashes the game if you try to play as it, but the model will load just fine.

Screenshots of the Metal Sonic in game: (Not normally playable)
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Super Sonic in all stages: (normally only playable after you have the emeralds and never lose a match)
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post Aug 21 2005, 07:59 PM
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Honey's loading screen: (Eggman's picture is the default for unused characters, but for some reason this shows ??? when the rest show the name Eggman)
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Honey in game:
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Honey is normally completely invisible because he/she has no model, but I loaded Honey with Sonic's model which is why his legs are still there.
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Eric Wright
post Aug 21 2005, 08:09 PM
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does "honey" have any moves? or rather, any unique moves, or were they just Sonic's movies since you made it load Sonic's model?


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Yuski
post Aug 21 2005, 08:21 PM
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Supposition... Honey = Charmy Bee?


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post Aug 21 2005, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(Eric Wright @ Aug 21 2005, 05:09 PM) *

does "honey" have any moves? or rather, any unique moves, or were they just Sonic's movies since you made it load Sonic's model?

They just appear to be generic moves. It's really hard to tell when you can't see what's going on. :-(
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post Aug 21 2005, 08:35 PM
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Probably Honey from Fighting Vipers as a joke character.


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Master Tails
post Aug 21 2005, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(Yuski @ Aug 21 2005, 09:21 PM) *

Supposition... Honey = Charmy Bee?

Charmy Bee would probably get his ass kicked if he was in this game.
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post Aug 21 2005, 11:00 PM
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(m)
MN0H-7NWM-W77V1
WNFM-3QFG-3DJA5
0JAW-RAVH-DE51A
GDZT-UH6W-A53CX
QE4M-MCM8-UYHKU
0W5Q-PPH2-UZV12
497M-M0CD-K5HBB
32WD-3B7R-0Y9Q1
W61M-TWWN-WV4MX
GHNZ-13X5-6DRFP
WHC0-3704-M47M2
QF1U-219N-Y0WNG
FXNA-XP9V-WXYWQ
72EJ-QC4T-7Z5VN
RRAH-D5YH-XB5JY

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Sonic the Fighters Codes:
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Enable Sonic the Fighters codes: *Note: This MUST be on if you're using codes for Sonic the Fighters*
07T9-3N5U-RPMG3
T63Z-N1G5-QFXXD

Use only one of the following 3 codes at a time:
Always Play as Metal Sonic:
BPJM-GG80-90BHV
151C-G62D-Q958X
EWW9-0QY0-FHF9U
4AQJ-CA6T-9X8XB

Always Play as Super Sonic:
5MV9-EQ2R-G5RWC
151C-G62D-Q958X
EWW9-0QY0-FHF9U
Y37F-BH85-DZBZ7

Always Play as Eggman:
JAQV-RQ3Q-JJV8T
151C-G62D-Q958X
EWW9-0QY0-FHF9U
WNJ9-J91U-XUDRF
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post Aug 22 2005, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE(Cryomancer @ Aug 21 2005, 05:35 PM) *

Probably Honey from Fighting Vipers as a joke character.

Sonic the Fighters does use a modified Fighting Vipers game engine, so you're probably right.


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post Aug 22 2005, 07:04 AM
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What Hivebrain said seems likely. The whole "? ? ?" thing when loading the stage seems to just about confirm it. But if Honey WAS put into the game, how would you fight him/her (never played Fighting Vipers)?
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post Aug 22 2005, 07:26 AM
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Honey. Her name seems to use the same font in StF.


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post Aug 22 2005, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE(Hivebrain @ Aug 22 2005, 08:15 AM) *

QUOTE(Cryomancer @ Aug 21 2005, 05:35 PM) *

Probably Honey from Fighting Vipers as a joke character.

Sonic the Fighters does use a modified Fighting Vipers game engine, so you're probably right.


Well, if it uses a modified version of the engine of Fighting Vipers, maybe it could be a leftover of the engine? The Perfect Dark engine is a modified engine of the 007 Goldeneye engine and has some leftover data of 007 in it...
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Yuski
post Aug 22 2005, 12:39 PM
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Yeah, makes sense to be Honey from Fighting Vipers/Fighters Megamix...

QUOTE(sonicblur @ Aug 21 2005, 05:59 PM) *


Honey in game:
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Now I noticed, Honey don´t have shadow.


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post Aug 22 2005, 01:07 PM
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maybe it was used for model testing before Honey was moved out , maybe


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post Aug 22 2005, 03:46 PM
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Although the original game doesn't have the thin white line around the letters like StF does.


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post Aug 22 2005, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(PicklePower @ Aug 22 2005, 12:46 PM) *

Although the original game doesn't have the thin white line around the letters like StF does.


Appears to have Knuckle's font to me.


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post Aug 22 2005, 03:55 PM
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Honey is a pretty well-known character actually. I choose to support my theory with TITTIES.

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post Aug 22 2005, 07:35 PM
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"Why you, little..."

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"Now you see why I am the best!"

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"You'll pay for this!"

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"Look at all the Eggman robots!"

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"I am Metal Sonic, I am the REAL Sonic!"

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post Aug 22 2005, 08:06 PM
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interesting. now if there was only a way to fully play as Honey, Rocket Metal and those others without the game crashing. maybe map the character models like this,
Honey>Amy
Rocket Metal>Metal Sonic
ect...


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post Aug 22 2005, 11:38 PM
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Wow!
So the unused characters actually work without crashing in the Arcade version?

You should've posted the Cheat Engine values for them then. :-P


(If you're bored, you could look for the values of the unused levels so I don't have to. :-P)

Edit: Wow. Searching on PC is a pain in the ass.
Here's a larger screenshot of honey from the Arcade version if anyone wants it.
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It seems the arcade version does NOT crash when you use the removed characters, unlike the GC version.
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